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Episode 4: Steve King and Stephen Davis


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Show Notes:

NIKKI Founder Stephen Davis and Bioenergetics Engineer Steve King tell how finding a path to recovery from Lyme disease led to a new technology and a breakthrough in general wellness. 

Stephen recalls his desperation as a parent with a daughter and two grandkids suffering from a disease that defies conventional modalities and Steve explains how NIKKI frequency technology optimizes cell function and approaches wellness and performance issues by increasing immunity and strengthening the human biofield. The biofield is explained and the importance of restoring coherent cell communication in order to enable the body to perform the way it is intended to. 

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Heather Gray: Thank you so much for joining us for another awesome episode of Bioenergetic Beats. Hey there, I’m Heather Gray, a Functional Diagnostic Nutrition Practitioner and Certified Energy Practitioner. And on this episode, it is brought to you by NIKKI. Unleash the wellness within. It’s a non-invasive, easily affordable and highly effective approach to optimize wellness. It’s a wearable device.

Heather Gray: that puts frequency better-based life in your hands and on your wrist. And make sure, make sure to stick around till the very, very end because we’ve got a very special giveaway that you’re not going to want to miss. But you’re also not going to want to miss this awesome episode with the founder, CEO, Stephen Davis. And then we’re welcoming back Steve King from the previous episode. And we’re going to be talking about why the tech works, how the tech works, and just getting in deeper into how this beautiful thing operates so amazingly. So let’s give everybody, let’s give a warm welcome to Stephen Davis and Steve King. Yay, thanks for joining us today, gentlemen.

Stephen Davis: You’re very welcome. Yeah, we’re happy to be here.

Heather Gray: Yay. So this will be the first time that we’ve got Steven on the podcast and he’s our fearless leader, our CEO, our founder. And so, Steven, I’d love for you to just give us a little bit of a background. Tell us, you know, how you got started in the bioenergetic space, you know, really focusing on Lyme in the beginning and then now into other frequencies. Like, tell us your story.

Stephen Davis: Well, I think, uh, the biggest, the biggest person that got me going down this direction is my daughter. She had Lyme for 12 years. The first eight years, we had no idea what she had. We went from doctor to doctor, like most people that have Lyme disease that don’t know it. And eight years into it, we discovered that, uh, she had some markers that would lead us to think that she had Lyme disease. And so we were happy as a family because now we finally know what it is. So let’s go fix it. And we went out like everybody else, spending a lot of money and time. And two years later, we were in a worse place than we were when we started. But then there was, I ran into a gentleman who said that he was working on something around Lyme disease. And so him and I got together and we ended up building out a technology that did that. We took a technology that uses light to carry frequencies into the body. And we just felt that the body being, you know, the body was created to absorb light. And so it just made sense to go in to the body that way as well, to bring our frequencies. Your cells, they’ve been designed to retain that low energy light. And so they’re getting the information we’re putting into the body and they’re taking it to the immune system and the immune system wakes up to the issue and starts to do the job that it was created to do in the first place. And then the journey begins, the wellness journey begins because you start to get better.

Stephen Davis: And so that’s where we ended up.

Heather Gray: So, but how did you even learn, like most people, this type of technology is like not even on their brain. Like it’s definitely fringe, but it’s becoming more and more popular these days. So how did you even get involved with this type of technology?

Stephen Davis: well, we were trying so many different things and this just happened to be the thing that worked. And so I had a little bit of background with frequencies where we were using technology to help balance the brain. So I had very limited, I’m not a doctor, I’m not a scientist but I had a limited amount of information that at least gave me enough curiosity to say, well, why don’t we try this? Because I saw it working in a different application. They were just using sound. And so we switched to light and we found a profound difference as far as the reaction to the frequencies within the body.

Heather Gray: It’s amazing what parents on a mission can do, right? Like the majority of the stuff that really gets changed, it’s usually parents looking for an answer for their sick kid, because they have tried so many different things. And refresh my memory, if I’m correct, didn’t you also have grandchildren that were affected as well?

Stephen Davis: Yes, my daughter, in the first eight years, she had two sons and they both had significant health issues. And of course, we didn’t know it had anything to do with Lyme because we didn’t know Lyme even existed. But once we discovered that Jadine had Lyme and we tested the boys and they had Lyme, that’s when the journey began. Today, that was back in 2016, today, my daughter and both my grandsons are doing fantastic. They don’t have Lyme, they don’t have any symptoms. They’ve got their life back. They’re excelling in school and in life. And that’s what it’s about.

Heather Gray: That’s awesome. That is a beautiful, amazing, inspiring story. And that was part of that story that when I had you on my podcast of what got me so lit up about this company is because the proof is in the pudding, right? Like we can theorize about things all day long and certain things sound good on paper, but until you actually start to see the results, especially within your own family, like that’s such a beautiful gift. Steve, why don’t you just give us a little refresher on who you are and who’s involved in all this?

Steve King: Yeah. So, um, my background is in environmental engineering actually. And I started working with, uh, control systems. I was working with a different company and I met Steven 2019, I guess it was at this point. And, uh, I was interested in working on this, this frequency technology then, but that was Beth, another company. Um, a couple of years later, I left that company and reconnected with and, uh, started on this amazing journey of working with, um, this incredible light technology, like I’ve got this and I got my way one here and I got other led technology here. And it’s, uh, it’s absolutely fascinating.

Heather Gray: That’s absolutely incredible. Yeah. Mr. Steve is, has got a very large brain and he diving in deep with some of the technical stuff of this, which is amazing. And I’ve said this before that when I got into the bioenergetic field, that I always understood it on an intuitive level, but I don’t have the language like Steve does to really dive deep and get down into the rabbit hole, which he, he blows my brain on a daily basis, but it’s awesome to have someone like him on the team. So that’s great.

Stephen Davis: Yeah, to have somebody like you, Steve, on our team, validating what we’re doing is really good because we moved forward based on the positive results that we got. Now we move forward in a much broader way because we’re understanding how we can get results in things outside of Lyme disease, which is really, really interesting.

Stephen Davis: which leads to the NIKKI.

Heather Gray: What we’re going to be able to do with the Nikki and all the different types of people that it can help support is absolutely incredible. And now that we’ve gone through a little bit of the backstory. It’s a great time for just taking a quick pause for commercial break. So don’t go anywhere. We’re going to dig in a little deeper with both these Incredible gentlemen, and we’re going to find out more on how and why this stuff actually works. So stay tuned.

Heather Gray: Welcome back, everybody. Thank you for sticking with us through the break. And also again, make sure not to miss out till the very end because we’ve got a really special giveaway, so stay tuned. Let’s dive in a little deeper. We’re gonna start with Steven and let’s talk a little bit more about why this tech works.

Stephen Davis: Frequency technology, there’s a lot of it out there in the marketplace and it does a lot of different things. And I believe in frequency technology. What we did is we had to get focused on Lyme disease and Lyme disease is pretty tricky because there’s a lot of co-infections that come with it. So you can’t just go in and deal with one thing. You have to go in and deal with all of it at the same time. And so that’s what we did. And I think the reason that we’re extremely effective is we go in with, like just for Lyme, we go in with over 74 different frequencies

Stephen Davis: to go in to help the immune system do the job that it was designed to do in the first place. And we’re finding great success in that. And the interesting thing is, we’ve taken what we’ve learned and we’re helping people overcome a disease that nobody else has been able to have any success with, unless you catch it in the first week or so, and then you can see some good results. But after that, you know, my family was hooped. We just hit walls everywhere we went. But now we’ve taken what we learned to help people overcome a serious disease, and now we’re applying it to general wellness, which is really interesting because we’re approaching general wellness the same way we approach Lyme disease, which is very creative and unique. And so we take on one of our programs, like we will have over 200 frequencies in one of our programs because we do more than one thing. And so, and I think that’s the key to medicine is you cannot overcome an illness by treating one thing. There’s so many things going on at the same time because your immune system is so compromised. And so that’s why we focus on the immune system. You get your immune system doing the job it was created to do, things start to correct.

Heather Gray: Absolutely. It’s one of my biggest pet peeves, especially in the Lyme community. Everybody’s always asking, you know, cause I had it for over 27 years. What’d you do to, what’d you do to treat? What did you do to treat? And I keep telling him and I keep screaming at the top of my mountain. It’s not just one thing. And a lot of it is balancing the bioenergetic field, lifestyle stuff, mindset stuff. And so even with our technology, I tell a lot of people, it’s not a magic bullet. There are always other things that you need to take into consideration when healing. But the fact that we do cover so much with this powerful little device is just absolutely mind blowing. Steve, would you like to add anything to that?

Steve King: Yeah, going back to the example of how it’s many things, I like to say that the body itself is, of course, composed of trillions of cells.

Steve King: They all do different things towards the same goal. It’s like a symphony. It’s like different pieces.

Steve King: all working towards the same thing, and an illness is no different. So looking at the different co-infections, the different physiological effects you’re going to get, you’ve got to treat all of them, basically.

Steve King: It’s never just one thing.

Heather Gray: Absolutely. So why actually we have you here, Steve, let’s ask the next one for you. What is the bioenergetic field? And why should we care? How does this type of tech work with that bioenergetic field?

Steve King: That’s a great question. So a field that surrounds living beings that is created by the functioning of the cells and organs within the body, for example, the heart field.

Steve King: The HeartMath Institute has done extensive research on this and they found that there is a field emanating out from the body from the heart that can be measured several meters away or several many feet for my American friends. And this is, it’s been measured many, many times over the years and there’s direct correlations. Obviously you’d expect correlations with the beating of the heart, but there are also correlations with the emotional state of the person.

Steve King: And we can dive into more detail on that as we get to it, but that’s kind of the dipping the toes in the water there.

Heather Gray: It’s lovely how that we have been able to record, right? The brain, the EEG, the heart, the EKG. So we actually have instruments that can test the electromagnetic field coming off of each one of our organs, each one of our systems. And like he was saying earlier, that they do need to be talking to each other in a symphony type of way. That if we’ve got the brain is out and not talking to the heart properly, it’s going to create disease. It’s going to create imbalances. And it’s funny because in functional medicine, they think they have the root cause down, but you really need to go one step further out into the bioenergetic field to actually get to the root cause of things. And that’s why I love.

Heather Gray: how simple this technology does work. It’s not crazy, totally complicated, convoluted. It’s really, by design, so eloquent.

Stephen Davis: Well, the easiest way that I can describe our technology, we’re just delivering information into the system. And when we deliver information using low energy light, the cells are designed to pick up that light. And when they do, they pick up the information. And if they need that information, they’ll use it. If they don’t need that information, it just falls on deaf ears. It doesn’t cause effect of any kind. And so the key thing for us is finding the right information to help overcome whatever trauma, whether it’s physical or emotional, whatever trauma has caused the body to do, whether you have sleep issues or you may have fatigue or pain, like physical and emotional trauma are gonna knock your cells off balance. And when you’re off balance, those are the kinds of things that pop up. And it’s really hard to deal with those, but we’ve learned how to come about those because we’ve had to address one of the toughest diseases on the planet, which has allowed it to broaden our thinking in such a way that now we’re coming at these other issues and we’re finding success because we have a different way of looking at it. And if you provide the right information to the body, the body’s gonna use that to correct the imbalance that has occurred by trauma.

Heather Gray: Beautifully put, absolutely. I would love, so Steve, you had, Stephen, you had said at the beginning that your first introduction was with another technology that used sound, but we used light. So why use one over the other?

Stephen Davis: Well it depends on the inventor on what they’re trying to accomplish. And so when they were using sound they were specifically balancing the brain. And we don’t go after one specific area like that. We go after your weakest system and we build out from there. That’s how we learn to do what we do. And it picks up all the imbalances along the way that’s caused by that trauma that set you down this path in the first place. And so it’s really interesting our approach because we don’t look at your symptoms. We don’t look at one issue. We find your weakest system and we start bringing the information in that’s going to allow the immune system to build those areas the way it was designed to do in the first place. We don’t know why your immune system doesn’t do it. But we do know how to remind it of itself of its job. And it starts to do it. And so that’s the real interesting part because the body is the most fascinating thing that you’ll ever learn you’ll ever be able to explore. I mean like oh my goodness. And it’s all about communication. No different than outside your body folks. Look at the world that we live in. We have a problem. And it’s a communication problem. And we’re experiencing that in our lives outside. And we’re experiencing the same problems inside. You have a communication problem. There’s going to be issues.

Heather Gray: Absolutely. And I thought I remembered that there was three ways that the cells communicate. So we spoke about light, we spoke about sound. What’s the third way?

Steve King: Light actually is the interesting third way, so if I could back up just a little bit, so typically cells communicate chemically, for example, like by releasing hormones or other neurochemicals, things like that. Other way is they can connect electrically. Light is kind of like the new kid on the block. This was discovered a few decades ago by a scientist by the name of Fritz Albert Popp.

Steve King: and he discovered that living cells both receive and emit photons, which are called biophotons, of course.

Steve King: And this is actually the method by which our technology works. So, Stephen alluded to the fact that the cells were designed to receive light.

Steve King: That’s true, they accept light, they emit light. It’s very faint, but they do communicate with light. You also mentioned coherence. So one of the major discoveries about biophotons is that coherence matters immensely.

Steve King: If cells are out of coherence, they’re chaotic, they’re discordant, think of it like an orchestra. If everyone’s playing a different thing, a different piece of music, they’re out of tune, it’s just going to be noise. That’s what happens when cells are diseased.

Steve King: And it’s not even about the volume, because if you’ve got quiet chaos, that’s just as chaotic as loud chaos.

Steve King: What matters is coherence.

Steve King: On the last podcast, we talked about the game of telephone. Remember, probably everyone played that when they were kids, one kid whispers a message in the next person’s ear and it goes down the line and by the time it gets to the final person, the message is hilariously garbled. I mean, that’s kind of the point for a kid’s game, but with ourselves, we don’t want that. Because if the message gets garbled from one cell to the next, you get improper cell function, you get all sorts of things. The NSAID is what we call disease. So by using strong, coherent light pulses with the message that our cells need, it acts like a signal booster. So we give many cells the right message and they’re able to kind of propagate it out through these biophoton emissions and that helps the proper message.

Steve King: go throughout the entire body and kind of realign or re-synchronize the cellular function. So a cell has on its surface different cellular receptors, things like caffeine will plug in and other chemicals, signaling molecules will plug in and each receptor has its own specialty.

Steve King: I think I’m like locks, and only a certain key will plug into that lock. Sometimes there are other things that will plug in. Like for example, a caffeine molecule plugs in perfectly to the adenosine receptor. That’s why we feel awake when we have caffeine, because our cells aren’t perceiving or receiving the signal from adenosine. The signal molecule plugs in, a signal is sent into the cell to do something. In this case, with caffeine, be awake and alert. When we send the light pulses in, that activates the receptors in the same way, and they send the signal in without the molecule actually being present.

Steve King: So that’s how we’re able to, in this case, we send a caffeine signal in and I’m awake.

Stephen Davis: So we’re just using the energy.

Steve King: Yeah, we’re basically activating the receptor with, like, we’re kind of like mimicking the input that the outside of the receptor would give. It’s kind of like, let me put it this way, imagine you’ve got a doorbell in your house, like a wireless doorbell, and someone can press the doorbell and then inside it goes ding dong. What we’re doing is we’re sending the signal to make the inside go ding dong without anyone actually pressing the outside button.

Heather Gray: It’s incredible what what light does for the body and for the longest time I didn’t realize you know I’m like vitamin D we get it from the sun, but I never really dawned on me, how do you get it from the sun and it’s actually the light right that stimulates certain chemical activities will need to produce vitamin D, or they say that people with sleep issues one of the best things that you can do to reset your circadian rhythm is to go out and get first morning light onto your eyes so our body.

Steve King: Yeah, you want the blue light in the morning, you don’t want it at night.

Heather Gray: Absolutely. So our bodies are very much wired for light, for sound. It’s a beautiful thing how that all works.

Heather Gray: I’d love to get into a little bit of testimonials because I know both of you gentlemen have really awesome stories to tell on how this this this technology has worked for you and your family and your friends like what are some of the coolest stories that you can think of that you can share. Let’s start with Stephen.

Stephen Davis: And everything that we do produces a testimony that’s profound. It doesn’t matter if we’re helping people overcome sleep, if it’s energy, if it’s pain. It’s profound what we do because it’s done through a device that you strap on your wrist. It’s a plug and play and you pick what you want. And so if you want to sleep, go to insomnia and you’re going to sleep. If you need some energy, click it on in the afternoon and you’re going to have a little bit of an energy spike and so on. The product works extremely well on so many things, but the stories that are produced are all profound, Heather.

Heather Gray: Absolutely. I’ve been working with a girlfriend who, um, was getting off of cannabis and kratom. So she was going through some withdrawals. And she said one of her biggest issues was not being able to sleep. And that was what scared her. And I was like, Oh, why I can help you there, you know, so the few, you know, melatonin, some beautiful supplements, and then also, I let her borrow my Nikki with the nighttime, you know, setting it up, and then the sleep. And she says, typically, she doesn’t sleep for the first two weeks when she comes off these substances. And for the first night, she got four hours, the second night, she got six hours, and then within by night four, she was sleeping eight hours after, you know, within her first week of coming off these substances. So it’s amazing. Like I said, when you think outside of the box, it’s not it’s not just lime, either. That was our huge, you know, then that’s what brought me to it. But what I’ve seen it do for people outside of the lime world is absolutely incredible.

Stephen Davis: That’s right. And there’s other products out there, like the Aura Ring, that measure sleep. And so when I measure my sleep in the morning, I wake up with a crown. Like I get very high scores. I’m getting so many different points during the night where I get my REM sleep. I get the difference, the different sleeps that you need, I’m getting. And it’s demonstrating through these other products that measure things, not correct things. We correct things.

Heather Gray: Absolutely. So Steve, what about yourself?

Steve King: I actually have got two stories about NICA experiences. So the first one was last summer. I had decided to go on a bit of a health kick and I was just starting extended intermittent fasting.

Steve King: So, I was doing, I think it was my first day doing 18-6 intermittent fasting and it was about 2-3 in the afternoon, I was still a few hours away from eating and I was flagging a bit. We were out for a long walk, my wife, my daughter and I, and I put on the energy boost, I put on energy mode and within minutes, I just felt like I was bouncing off the walls. I hadn’t had any more coffee, I hadn’t had any food yet, it had been quite a few hours and I just felt like I was bouncing off the walls. And I was like, oh my god, I can’t do this, I can’t do this, I can’t do this, I can’t

Steve King: I was literally running just to burn off energy. I would run like a hundred meters and back to catch up with my wife and back and away at her back. And she’s like, what is wrong with you? I’m like, I’ve got so much energy, I don’t know what to do. And it was absolutely phenomenal. I wish I could be like that all the time, but.

Steve King: I was, it was, it was an amazing experience.

Stephen Davis: And so I’m going to comment on that. So yeah, that energy, Steve, you’re not getting your body’s not getting, we’re not feeding your body a bunch of energy. What we’re doing is we’re waking up your brain. That’s why I put it on the afternoon because when you wake up the brain, all of a sudden your body starts getting energized, but we wake up the brain because you know, you get a little sluggish towards the end of your day. At least I do. And you know, I go hard all day long and then I start getting sluggish at the end of the day. And so the energy boost and it just wakes up my brain. And so now I’m ready to go for another shift.

Heather Gray: It’s funny, I’ve got an energy story as well. I do my grocery shopping Wednesday evenings and Wednesday’s usually a pretty long day of recording for me. And so by the time I go, I’m not the nicest person to the cashier sometimes because I’m tired and I’m a little grumpy. And that I don’t like being that person because that’s not typically who I am. So I thought I’m gonna try this one day and I slapped it on energy and lo and behold, I’m bagging my groceries, singing a little tune, talking to the cashier, making little jokes. And I was like, holy crap, I’ve got energy. So yeah, how beautiful that I got to show up in a more pleasant, especially to the cashiers, people who work in the service industry. They don’t need any more care and it’s given them a hard time.

Heather Gray: you guys, I highly encourage you that are watching, make sure to go check out our website, because there are testimonial after testimonial after testimonial after testimonial, and I am still recording new testimonials. You know, every day one was an 11-year-old who was completely bed-bound, and after, you know, wearing the wave one for a couple of months, she’s got her life back from having Lyme disease, and was completely bed-bound, and tried to, her parents did all the things that, you know, typical folks with Lyme do, and this was the only thing that helped her and her mother out, and to see them on the testimonial was just so beautiful, and watching her play tennis again, and just be a happy, go-lucky, carefree 11-year-old, like what a gift that is.

Stephen Davis: Well, Steve, what you experienced was one of the things that’s in our pain program is it deals with the inflammation and that’s where you get the recovery quicker. Yeah. We just finished some live blood trials, which are fascinating. I encourage everyone to get a live blood trial because they see everything. We went in to just see three things. We wanted to see if we activated the immune system. We did a 90 day trial and the results were profound. We activate your immune system. The second thing that they measured was my, not just mine, but everybody that was in it, they measured our inflammation markers. And so we did a 90 day. And so in the beginning, inflammation was there. At the end, you could see the inflammation was fading away in a profound way and it frees up your cells because you can see good cell movement, right? Instead of it clumping together. And the other thing that we tested for was parasites. And at the end of the program, we were testing for parasites in the beginning. At the end, we weren’t. And so it’s really interesting, the things that we do with the NIKKI, using the product the way we use it.

Heather Gray: Oh, absolutely. And we’re just getting started, folks. Just getting started. So it’s about time to wrap up. Do either one of you gentlemen have any last words of wisdom or any nuggets you want to drop before we say goodbye?

Stephen Davis: I encourage you to go to our website,, and you’re gonna find a product on there that is going to help you overcome so many things, even if it’s just sleep. You know, if you’re not sleeping well, that means you got fatigued the next day. It may help you with, it may encourage stress in your life. Like, all these things are connected. And we’ve found a way to connect those dots in helping you overcome. So we’re overcoming them all, not just one. See how we can help.

Heather Gray: Absolutely. Thank you. And thank you both. Make sure, and actually we’re going to do one better, where I want you to go to backslash podcast, and make sure to use the code BioBeats to get 10% off of any of those products. And then because we love our customers so much, and we want to show our appreciation, we’re going to give away a Nikkie on each one of these episodes. So make sure to go and visit the show notes so that you can learn how to enter. So make sure to check that out and have a healthy day. Thanks again, gentlemen, for joining us.

Steve King: Thank you. It’s been a pleasure.

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